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| Jack |
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Many times I read that COs are aggressive toward strangers.I think I want a reserved dog,but I don't want my dog to allow a stranger's fondling him,so maybe I want an aggressive dog I am not able to decide. How are your COs toward strangers?Are they friendly/reserved/aggressive toward them? |
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| gsicard |
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Hi Jack, the CO is supposed to be aggressive when approached by a stranger. If the stranger is not approaching they will be watched but not aggressed. |
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| Jack |
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| Thanks.Are they aggressive to approaching strangers even with enough socialization?
[ Edited Fri Nov 13 2009, 05:59PM ] |
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| dkoriss |
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Hi Jack, According my oppinion you really want a guard dog. I say so, because most probably I use to feel exactly like you "i want my dog extremelly reserved against strangers". I do not want a companion only, i want a serious dog that make obvious to ANYONE from the very first moment that he will attack if the stranger just get close enough either to the family, or to home. My opinion is, that is the best way among other thinks, to organize you home defense. My opinion as well is, that in our so called modern (cruel-criminal i would describe) world there is a need for this, more than ever. OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR THE RESPONSIBILITY OF OWNING SUCH A DOG. Beleive me, after getting my BOERBOEL, the return out of it, worth THIS RESPONSIBILITY AND MORE. CO makes an excelent guard as well. You are on the correct path. You start with a dog breed suspicious with strangers (this instict is no 1 here, do not accept anythink less) Speaking with a Russian breeder once, he told me some think, that mekes perfectly sense. If you want your CO, to properly guard and defend, NEVER SOCIALIZE IT with strangers, extensive socialization is absoloutelly NECESSARY, ONLY with the family members. Consider your CO'S ARMS primarilly, not his teeth but his INSTINCT. IF it has teeth, but not instinct, IT IS USELESS. Consider every time a stranger pet your CO takes away some of its insinct. Consider everY time a stranger feed your CO takes awy A LOT of its instinct. Repeat this senario and you will end up with a CO without arms, to guard and defend, though it will have teeth. Specially when your CO is learning thinks up to 1+1/2 year old. Of course this apply in generall with any dog is destined to guard/defend. Many so called specialists, they want us to over sociallise our puppies,(on the name of the public safetey, calm balanced dogs and the like...) which we bought them to guard and protect as adults, we deprire this way their natural guarding instinct and then they tell us WHAT? HOW YOU EXPECT YOUR DOG TO PROTECT??? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAVE YHOU TRAIN IT FOR THIS????? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND IF THEY ARE SERIOUS PERSONS THEY TRY TO WAKE UP ITS SLEEPING INSTINCT, and TRY TO TEACH IT TO DO, WHAT SHOULD HAVE DONE IN FIRST PLACE WITHOUT ANY KIND OF TRAINNING. IF THEY ARE NOT, THEY TEACH OUR DOGS TO PLAY WITH SLEEVES AND BE THE BEST FRIEND WITH THE AGITATOR(which SUPPOSED is perceived by the dog as the "bad" guy) But the NEED is, for the dog to hate the intruder, when we want the dog to guard and protect, NOT TO PLAY WITH HIS BEST FRIEND. Its up to us, as responsible and resonable owners to which one the dog can gain acces to bite and to which NOT. One is for sure if we want an effective protector at any time, SHOULD FEEL LIKE ...BITE THEM ALL BUT HIS FAMILY. Anythink less should make us feel, we start count down, for our dog to be deceived,for our dog not to be a credible guard/protector, though would appeal our friends very much. Of course there are very responsible real professionals, which the inform you for all these and when they train your dog, teaching how to bite, how and when to release its grip, under real senarios, to obay your voice, etck they make your dog EVEN MORE EFFECTIVE. These people they worth the momey you pay. But make no mistake. THE DOG NEEDS TO HAVE THE INSTICT IN FIRST PLACE, and never push it down by no means. and be sure, the most balanced dogs are the dogs with the protecting instinct. They always know who to bite, the stranger/intruder/criminal(our responsibility is to decide ...who) NEVER the owner, like many times the over socialized dogs without any protection instinct do. Of course, the way we rise the dog is very important and of course exemptions always exist, but this is what I STRONGLY beleive after owning different breeds and dogs, protective and non protective. My oppinion is that the average CO still ...has it. In the future whith the so called softening of the breed, I don't know. So an important factor is to check the lines of the dog to lead in sharp dogs. This is just my opinion. Regards dkoriss |
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| gsicard |
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dkoriss, That is a fantastic post. very well said. I believe the same as you regarding the instinct of the dogs to protect. Good job. Thank you. |
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| iceman2 |
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Hi: My pennies worth is that yes the CO is a natural guard dog , I am on my second one now, who is just 2 moths old, he is a fantastic animal, loves me and wife to bits, but even at this age, he shows signs of the guarding attitude against strangers, as he backs off and gives his little growl toward them. Even at this age you can see the genes cutting in, they will protect you and your family to the death, and short of using a gun or a BIG knife, they will take anybody apart who attempts to mess with his family. I think this is a great aspect to them, but sometimes when a friend comes around or you need to take them to the Doctors this can present potential problems, unless you have your Co trained to a word of course. My dogs, I like to let their natural natures flower and be themselves as much as possible. But they are not a dog to take lightly, to use that silly film comment, but it is true, with great power come great responsibility, and in the wrong hands these are very, very dangerous dogs. But in the right hands, they are unbeatable as a great friend and companion to the owner and family. But we live at the foot of the mountains, in a very large field and we don’t get to see people that often, thank God! Hahahah | ||
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My dog is probably not the best example of the breed in that he is a rescue dog of uncertain parentage and might not even be pure-bred (although one or two people have suggested he is probably a pure-bred based on his appearance) His temperament is interesting to me, he is very suspicious of strangers but seems more shy/fearful than aggressive with most people (the harmless ones like kids that want to pet him) I always have to warn people away from trying to touch him or even look straight at him; he definitely not friendly or reserved, worried and suspicious is closer. I am actually concerned he might be more likely to bite someone out of fear so I don't let anyone come close enough to him to bother him. He has to meet someone three or four times under pleasant circumstances before he will allow them to come close to him or touch him. I don't know if this is normal for the breed or whether this individual dog is just shy/fearful due to some combination of his genetics and early experiences When my dog encounters someone that actually seems "threatening" in his terms then he does growl or barks at them. My other dog is like this too (he's not a CO however). I call it the "men at bus-stops" phenomenon and it happens like this... when walking my dogs on leash we may have to pass by a group of men waiting at a bus stop. This is a problem because they all tend to stare at the tiny woman with the two large dogs and then the two large dogs interpret the men staring as aggressive and begin barking or growling even if the bus stop is clear on the other side of the road. My smaller dog is pretty much indifferent or friendly to almost any harmless stranger but the CO is suspicious of all strangers and especially men, he will bark if he hears men's voices halfway down the back lane on our street. I am new to raising a CO so I am trying to find out what is normal for these dogs and how to best deal with the one I have. I want a dog that is reserved but not shy or fearful |
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| Anubis6 |
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I don't have a Caucasian Ovcharka, but I'm interested in the different flock guardian breeds. I have a male Doberman who is 10 months old and protective, but I was looking at either an Anatolian Shepherd or Caucasian Ovcharka down the road? Does anyone have any feedback on these 2 dogs? This would be a dog for a home companion/guard dog. I don't have any livestock to protect, just myself and my wife. My Doberman seems protective, but he's a bit young still. To me, he seems very territorial, but others on the Doberman forum say that a dog at 10 months doesn't truly show guarding tendencies. I disagree with them, but whatever. Any feedback on the 3 guardian breeds I listed? From what I read, the Caucasian is pretty much the king of guard dogs. I did read that Anatolians are great as well. Thanks! |
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